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PostSubject: GI Joe   Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:30 pm

Hey guys,

I need some help regarding the European release of the USS Flagg.
Has anyone here ever seen a SEALED specimen of gigantic playset?

And by sealed I mean sealed on both sides and not just MIB.
I personally believe that this set was never offered here entirely sealed since it came with an extra safety instructions sheet (printed in the language of the country where it was released). The sheet wasn't multi-langual (one language only).

For example: The French stores only sold Flaggs with French instructions,...etc.
Since the Flagg was NEVER produced in Europe the instructions must have been placed inside the boxes somewhere between the time of production and the period where they were offered to the trade/retail.
Did this happen in the warehouses during transit?

I am quite sure that there wasn't a single "entirely sealed" Flagg for sale in Belgium and the Netherlands (one side was always open).
What about the other European countries?

I sincerely hope someone can help me out.

Take care.

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:38 pm

a long time ago in a toy shop far away
a woman bougth a big christmas present for her kids, and want to open it to see if it is complette, and opnened it to look inside, .....






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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:22 pm

OMFG!!!!! that thing's HUGE!!!

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:21 am

Ehy ninjor, was the Flagg really sold in Belgium??? Are you sure? First notice!!! I thought it were never sold in Europe... US boxed with Belgium instructions? And no Belgium languajes sticker outside?
lol!

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PostSubject: Flagg   Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:03 am

horda_drone wrote:
Ehy ninjor, was the Flagg really sold in Belgium??? Are you sure? First notice!!! I thought it were never sold in Europe... US boxed with Belgium instructions? And no Belgium languajes sticker outside?
lol!


Yes it was my friend.
Not only did I see it for sale back in the days (they charged approx. 10.995 BEF for it = 275 EURO), I own a Belgian version of the Flagg.
100 % complete, MINT with original box, original instructions and the Dutch - French instructions/safety pamflet.
When I have the time I will update my website and create a new section about this behemoth of a toy.

KR,

Filip

PS I love your Avatar. Big Trouble in LC is one of my all time favourite movies.
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The character of Rayden from the Mortal Kombat video Game as well as Chang Tsung were based on this movie. Excellent!


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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:46 pm

ninjor1 wrote:
Hey guys,

I need some help regarding the European release of the USS Flagg.
Has anyone here ever seen a SEALED specimen of gigantic playset?

And by sealed I mean sealed on both sides and not just MIB.
I personally believe that this set was never offered here entirely sealed since it came with an extra safety instructions sheet (printed in the language of the country where it was released). The sheet wasn't multi-langual (one language only).

For example: The French stores only sold Flaggs with French instructions,...etc.
Since the Flagg was NEVER produced in Europe the instructions must have been placed inside the boxes somewhere between the time of production and the period where they were offered to the trade/retail.
Did this happen in the warehouses during transit?

I am quite sure that there wasn't a single "entirely sealed" Flagg for sale in Belgium and the Netherlands (one side was always open).
What about the other European countries?

I sincerely hope someone can help me out.

Take care.

Filip


Hi Filip,

USS Flagg was released in France in fall 1987. It came sealed within US box, which itself with in a brown outer box for protection.
French USS Flagg also came with instruction sheet in french. However, Keel-Haul's file card was the regular american one. There is no french filecard for him (Keel-Haul was one of the few characters for which Hasbro France kept the original american name)

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PostSubject: Problem solved!   Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:42 pm

[/quote]

Hi Filip,

USS Flagg was released in France in fall 1987. It came sealed within US box, which itself with in a brown outer box for protection.
French USS Flagg also came with instruction sheet in french. However, Keel-Haul's file card was the regular american one. There is no french filecard for him (Keel-Haul was one of the few characters for which Hasbro France kept the original american name)[/quote]

Hey Reg,

Thanks for the info. You're the man!
It took me all day (calling, driving to Brussels and Gent, and sending dozens of e-mails) but I have the info that I wanted now.
BTW I made a mistake when I typed the former asking price of 18.000 BEF in my other post. It was sold for exactly 10.995 BEF (approx. 275 EURO).
My Flagg still contains his original price tag from the Christiaensen toy store (a store in the City 2 mall - this shopping centre still exists today) which was located in the Rue Neuve in Brussels.
The editions of the Flagg that were destined to be sold on the European market were shipped from the factory to the local warehouses of Hasbro.
In Belgium they were located in Brussels.
Every box (the boxes from The US and EURO market were identical) was opened in these warehouses and the Hasbro/MB employees replaced the original instruction sheets with nearly identical sheets (the translated sheets were black instead of Blue).
After replacing the sheet the employees resealed the boxes using transparent tape and they placed 2 different stickers on each box.
- Sticker 1 advertised that the set was provided with instructions in the native language of the country were it was sold.
- Sticker 2 contained codes and info about the particular shop were this exact specimen was going to be sold.

So guys from Italy, Spain and Germany? Did anyone ever see instruction sheets in the languages of these countries?
According to former Hasbro employees the sets were sold there as well.

Anyway...the Flagg rules! Yo Joe!

I will be spending the next weekend assembling it and creating a background for it so that I can display it propperly.
BTW I have allready dissasembled this set once before and it is no joke. It took approx. 2 hours. It's not exactly a fun job if you consider the fact that some of the parts have the tendency to break just by looking at them.

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:36 pm

ninjor1 wrote:
So guys from Italy, Spain and Germany? Did anyone ever see instruction sheets in the languages of these countries?
According to former Hasbro employees the sets were sold there as well.
[/quote]
Amazing about the Flagg sold in Europe!!!.... but in Spain, it was definately not released, for sure and sadly... crying

Thanx ninjor! I´m a big Kurt Russell and John Carpenter fan too!!!!!!!! congrats

Ehy Reg, you have an e-mail from me, please help me! Smile

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PostSubject: Pic   Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:04 pm

So guys,

It took me several hours but I must admit that it was fun all the way.
The Flagg is a wonderful item.

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Take care.

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:03 pm

Very nice Filip!!! Please can you share pics of the Belgian blueprints and stickers? I really would love to watch them!

congrats

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PostSubject: Flagg   Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:21 am

horda_drone wrote:
Very nice Filip!!! Please can you share pics of the Belgian blueprints and stickers? I really would love to watch them!

congrats


When I get back from my holliday I will take the time to add a section dedicated to the Flagg on my website. I will make sure it will have clear pictures so that all the details will be visible.
Don't have the time to do this immediately though...still 4 busy weeks to go (at work) and after that I will travel to London to see MJ perform. 5 days later I will be surrounded by the Austrian mountains (I wouldn't want it any other way - sigh).

TC,

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:12 pm

Ok Filip, will see that pics at your back! Congrats for the Flagg congrats

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PostSubject: USS Flagg   Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:29 pm

As promised:

http://www.euromotutoys.be/documents/ussflagg.html

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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:53 pm

i also collect G.i joe toys but i dont want USS Flag coz its too big and i dont have affort to it. and i i would pick between Eternia and USS Flag i would pick Eternia. its look better to me.
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PostSubject: Re: GI Joe   Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:35 pm

Hordak84 wrote:
i also collect G.i joe toys but i dont want USS Flag coz its too big and i dont have affort to it. and i i would pick between Eternia and USS Flag i would pick Eternia. its look better to me.


I understand what you mean when you say that you prefer Eternia over The Flagg. Eternia is the most beautiful set ever made i.m.o.
However...you can't compare Eternia with the Flagg.
MOTU was Sword & Sorcery mixed with ninja's, Laser blasters, dinosaurs and robots (this is the one and only reason why MOTU was so popular... it made sure that it covered at least one theme that was appealing to EVERY boy that grew up in the eigties).
GI JOE are and were army-based toys. Sometimes the makers tried to take a risk by adding a little fantasy to the line but this wasn't loved by the fans (Cobra-Lalala - WTF was that about???).
I also understand your point when you say that the Flagg is expensive...I didn't get it for free either but I've sacrificed A LOT to get it anyway.

I don't agree with the fact that you say it's too big. I understand that it can be too big for some collectors that don't have the room to display it properly.
But the playset on its own is not too big...au contraire. Children could play with this toy for hours in a row without getting bored.
We must not forget...these toys were designed for children in the first place (and not for collectors).

BB,

Filip

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